I guess I don't know because when my inactive father died my JW sister never bothered to call me to let me know of his passing.
How did you find out about your dad's passing?
Have you spoken to your sister since?
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What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat are the society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?.
are there specific rules or watchtower articles that must be followed?.
i have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.. 1. ten years ago my first cousin passed away.
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What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat are the society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?.
are there specific rules or watchtower articles that must be followed?.
i have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.. 1. ten years ago my first cousin passed away.
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What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?
Are there specific rules or Watchtower articles that must be followed?
I have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.
1. Ten years ago my first cousin passed away. Her disfellowshipped son was made to stand about 10 feet away from his mom's casket. He could not sit in the front row of chairs where family and friends paid their last respects. Everyone (who was a Jehovah's Witness ) refused to acknowledge him and walked away without a greeting.
2. A disfellowshipped brother's mom passed away. Everyone shook his hand to pay their condolences. He even sat in the front row. A Circuit Overseer was in town that week and he had no problem shaking the disfellowshipped brother's hand.
3. While attending a family friends wake/funeral, my two Jehovah's Witness cousins spotted a disfellowshipped brother walking up to the front row to pay his last respects. They immediately got up and walked to the back of the funeral home as soon as the disfellowshipped brother took his seat near us. I had no problem shaking his hand or having a friendly conversation with him.
I always hated the fact that the Watchtower Society and Elders take over a funeral with their rules and regulations. Never have I seen a family member (who wasn't a Jehovah's Witness) say a few kind words about the deceased at a funeral service.
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2021...what do you foresee?
by minimus indo you think the world will be a better place?
more civil?
kinder?
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'' I foresee... field service hours will increase due to letter writing and telephone witnessing.''
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The violent "My book of bible stories" not for kids!
by Witness 007 ini once left a copy with the kids of my return visit.
the next time i came she returned it to me saying it was discusting and not something kids should be reading.
i was shocked since i learnt to read using this book.
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I remember one picture was of a man with a tent peg through the brain.
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The violent "My book of bible stories" not for kids!
by Witness 007 ini once left a copy with the kids of my return visit.
the next time i came she returned it to me saying it was discusting and not something kids should be reading.
i was shocked since i learnt to read using this book.
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I see now how violent and horrible most of the stories were.
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Thoughts on JW funerals
by Syme ini recently had the sad opportunity to attend 2 jw funerals.
the first was a few months ago and the second today.
the first was my grandfather's and the second of an old friend back from my jw days.
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I haven't been to any meetings in over 9 years. I will no longer go inside a Kingdom Hall for any weddings or attend funeral talks. They only benefit the WTBTS as an "infomercial'' to recruit new members.
My wife and I attended a funeral 6 years for a wonderful friend of my family . His family and my family have been friends for over 40 years. He was a wonderful family man and was respected by all members of the congregation.
The family of the deceased decided to have a funeral talk at his one day wake since he was going to be cremated the next day. The funeral talk was for 7:30 p.m. We arrived around 7:00 p.m. to pay our condolences to the family. We had no choice but to stay and listen.
The funeral talk started off with details of where he was born, how he met his wife and year they married, names of his children, and what year he was baptized. That ran for about 5 minutes. The last 25 minutes were about how he become a Jehovah's Witness, what his favorite scriptures were, how he served as an Elder and how all his children were Jehovah's Witnesses.
They did not eulogize the deceased. They used it as an '' infomercial " for the benefit of the WTBTS. Shame on them for using this sad occasion for the benefit of recruiting. Anyone there in attendance who wasn't a Jehovah's Witness should shudder at this awful and shameful funeral talk.
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The zeal ain't there any more! Everyone is tired. The race has no finish line. Die, leave or go through the motions. Do the minimum so the Elders don't hound you. Zoom might the final nail in the coffin!
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Should Difference of Opinion Be Squelched On Sites Such As FB or Twitter?
by minimus ini think that for the most part, dissenting views should be allowed to exist because of free speech principles.
one person may strongly feel that something is true while someone else may present “facts” that support the opposing view.
when that is the case, healthy discussion is mostly productive.
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These big platforms are in fact public utilities.
Social media as a public utility
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaApplying the term public utility to social media implies that social media websites are public necessities, and, consequently, should be regulated by the government. While social media are not as essential for survival as traditional public utilities such as electricity, water, and natural gas, many people believe it has become vital for living in an interconnected world and without it, living a successful life would be difficult.[9] Therefore, many people believe that social media has reached utility status and should be treated as a public utility. However, others believe that this is not true because social media are constantly revolutionizing and giving such platforms "utility status" would result in government regulation, which would consequently hinder innovation. Over the past decade many have debated and questioned whether or not "Internet service providers should be considered essential facilities or natural monopolies and regulated as public utilities."[10]
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Should Difference of Opinion Be Squelched On Sites Such As FB or Twitter?
by minimus ini think that for the most part, dissenting views should be allowed to exist because of free speech principles.
one person may strongly feel that something is true while someone else may present “facts” that support the opposing view.
when that is the case, healthy discussion is mostly productive.
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I'm against the bakery who will not bake the cake for the gay couple.
I'm against the pharmacist who refuses to fill the birth-control order.
I'm against the photographer who refuses to shoot photos for a gay wedding.
I'm against Facebook, Twitter and Apple banning anyone from their websites who have views they don't agree with.
If Facebook, Twitter and Apple are in the wrong, why isn't the baker, pharmacist and photographer (who refuse to render their services because of conscious matters)?
You cannot pick and choose which companies should be given rights to refuse their services and force others to provide a service!
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Should Difference of Opinion Be Squelched On Sites Such As FB or Twitter?
by minimus ini think that for the most part, dissenting views should be allowed to exist because of free speech principles.
one person may strongly feel that something is true while someone else may present “facts” that support the opposing view.
when that is the case, healthy discussion is mostly productive.
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Simon Companies that have effectively become public utilities should not be able to kick people off. If they force individual business owners to bake cakes, then they should hold large corporates to the same account.
Simon : Two years ago on a thread you started, you seemed to disagree with individual business owners being forced to bake a cake. Did you change your mind on this matter?
What Are Your Rights?
by Simon 2 years ago 121 Replies latest 2 years ago
You also shouldn't have the right to demand the labor of others directly. This is where we get into ridiculous situations where someone demands that someone else bakes them a cake, a crazy offensive cake that they don't want to make. Again, the right should be that the government should not force you to provide your labor when you don't want to. But a false right is created and you have legal contradictions and endless court cases. The government ends up being used as a stick which is in direct contradiction of the only role government should play when it comes to rights - not to force their will on others.
Only when someone plays the role of "government" can you demand provision of service - someone in a government office shouldn't be able to deny you service because they don't like you or your views for instance.
Only when private enterprises reach "utility" status should they lose the right to deny service. Private companies and individuals can and should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they chose because that is the reality of human existence.